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Trouble with Forticlient no session id in auth info

i have an ssl vpn setup on a fortigate 80E

 

it takes my users between 1 and 20 tries to connect (randomly)  sometimes it connects first time.   other times it takes multiple tries. if it fails it gets to 80% an throws an error about not being able to connect.  i can also successfully connect  ,  then disconnect soon after and then try to reconnect and it might connect  or it might fail.. its completely randon

 

the debug throws the following

[202:root:5d]SSL established: TLSv1.2 ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 [202:root:5d]req: /remote/fortisslvpn [202:root:5d]rmt_web_auth_info_parser_common:444 no session id in auth info [202:root:5d]rmt_web_access_check:700 access failed, uri=[/remote/fortisslvpn],ret=4103, [202:root:5d]req: /remote/login [202:root:5d]rmt_web_auth_info_parser_common:444 no session id in auth info [202:root:5d]rmt_web_get_access_cache:781 invalid cache, ret=4103 [202:root:5d]User Agent: FortiSSLVPN (Windows NT; SV1 [SV{v=02.01; f=07;}]) [202:root:5d]get_cust_page:125 saml_info 0 [201:root:5b]sslvpn_read_request_common,655, ret=-1 error=-1, sconn=0x54ea2780. [201:root:5b]Destroy sconn 0x54ea2780, connSize=0. (root) [203:root:5c]allocSSLConn:298 sconn 0x54ea2e80 (0:root) [203:root:5c]SSL state:before SSL initialization (xx.xx.xx.xx) [203:root:5c]SSL state:before SSL initialization (xx.xx.xx.xx)

 

 

 

however upon successful connection i get 

 

 

[202:root:5f]SSL established: TLSv1.2 ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 [202:root:5f]req: /remote/fortisslvpn [202:root:5f]deconstruct_session_id:426 decode session id ok, user=[ryan],group=[SSL_VPN_Users],authserver=[DCserv1],portal=[full-access],host=[xx.xx.xx.xx],realm=[],idx=0,auth=16,sid=249770e,login=1634544849,access=1634544849,saml_logout_url=no [202:root:5f]deconstruct_session_id:426 decode session id ok, user=[ryan],group=[SSL_VPN_Users],authserver=[DCserv1],portal=[full-access],host=[xx.xx.xx.xx],realm=[],idx=0,auth=16,sid=249770e,login=1634544849,access=1634544849,saml_logout_url=no [202:root:5f]User Agent: FortiSSLVPN (Windows NT; SV1 [SV{v=02.01; f=07;}]) [201:root:5d]sslvpn_read_request_common,655, ret=-1 error=-1, sconn=0x54ea2780. [201:root:5d]Destroy sconn 0x54ea2780, connSize=0. (root) [203:root:5e]allocSSLConn:298 sconn 0x54ea2e80 (0:root) [203:root:5e]SSL state:before SSL initialization (xx.xx.xx.xx) [203:root:5e]SSL state:before SSL initialization (xx.xx.xx.xx)

 

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