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mkintexas
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March 26, 2019
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Site to Site VPN performance issues 140E (but not 140D)

  • March 26, 2019
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Folks,

 

We are deploying our first 140E into our environment.  We have a data center with a 500D and a Comcast 1gb Internet circuit.  We have about 100 sites that have anywhere from 25-50mb fiber circuits.  ALL sites with the exception of a new site with a 140E run fine and give me near line speed on throughput.  However this new site does not.  When I start a large copy.  It spikes at about 1.5-2.0MBS but then drops to 350KBS or down to 0.  I have a lab with a 140D so I tested there.  My 140D.  Performance is fine.  Configure a 140E the same way and get the same slow to stall issue.   Phase 1 is AES256 SHA256 as is Phase 2.  

Any ideas?  I do have a case opened with support.

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    Toshi_Esumi
    SuperUser
    SuperUser
    March 26, 2019

    If other location's 140E and 500D show much better, I would suspect MTU issue from/to the location you see the problem. Try ping with extra large size packets over the tunnel from the location's 140E. It wouldn't go through if that's the issue.

    ede_pfau
    SuperUser
    SuperUser
    March 26, 2019

    The only difference between the 140D and 140E is that the former has got a 2-core CPU (with HT), and the latter a SoC3, with a less potent CPU (this is an assumption). Make sure the IPsec traffic gets offloaded or the CPU will limit the throughput eventually.

    You would like to see

    gate # diag npu np6lite npu-feature
                        np_0
    ------------------- ---------
    Fastpath            Enabled
    IPv4 firewall       Yes
    IPv6 firewall       Yes
    IPv4 IPSec          Yes
    IPv6 IPSec          Yes
    IPv4 tunnel         Yes
    IPv6 tunnel         Yes
    GRE passthrough     Yes
    IPv4 Multicast      Yes

    IPv6 Multicast      Yes

    gate # diag vpn ipsec stat
    All ipsec crypto devices in use:
    NP6LITE_0:
        Encryption (encrypted/decrypted)
            null             : 0                0
            des              : 0                0
            3des             : 0                0
            aes              : 638720           575488
            aes-gcm          : 0                0
            aria             : 0                0
            seed             : 0                0
            chacha20poly1305 : 0                0
        Integrity (generated/validated)
            null             : 0                0
            md5              : 0                0
            sha1             : 0                0
            sha256           : 638720           575488
            sha384           : 0                0
            sha512           : 0                0

    NPU Host Offloading:
        Encryption (encrypted/decrypted)
            null             : 0                0
            des              : 0                0
            3des             : 0                0
            aes              : 102409           0
            aes-gcm          : 0                0
            aria             : 0                0
            seed             : 0                0
            chacha20poly1305 : 0                0
        Integrity (generated/validated)
            null             : 0                0
            md5              : 0                0
            sha1             : 0                0
            sha256           : 102407           0
            sha384           : 0                0
            sha512           : 0                0

    SOC3:
        Encryption (encrypted/decrypted)
            null             : 0                0
            des              : 0                0
            3des             : 0                0
            aes              : 6                98
            aes-gcm          : 0                0
            aria             : 0                0
            seed             : 0                0
            chacha20poly1305 : 0                0
        Integrity (generated/validated)
            null             : 0                0
            md5              : 0                0
            sha1             : 0                0
            sha256           : 6                98
            sha384           : 0                0
            sha512           : 0                0

    SOFTWARE:
        Encryption (encrypted/decrypted)
            null             : 0                0
            des              : 0                0
            3des             : 0                0
            aes              : 0                0
            aes-gcm          : 0                0
            aria             : 0                0
            seed             : 0                0
            chacha20poly1305 : 0                0
        Integrity (generated/validated)
            null             : 0                0
            md5              : 0                0
            sha1             : 0                0
            sha256           : 0                0
            sha384           : 0                0
            sha512           : 0                0
    that is, figures in the hardware section and very small figures in the CPU (SoC) and software sections.

    mkintexas
    mkintexasAuthor
    New Member
    March 27, 2019

    Thank you for your reply.   I tried several things with support yesterday.   Here are some observations.  If we disable A/V on the relevant policy throughput is fine.   Also in some cases if we wait it out.  3 minutes after a file copy starts it will pick up from its 0bps and go to normal speed.  So we are narrowing it down to have something to do with A/V.  We have tried both proxy and flow mode to no avail.  This is occurring on two different circuits with two different 140E's   one of the circuits is my lab.  If I move the cables over to the 140D in my lab I have no issues.  So definitely something around the 140E and its A/V engine.   I am going to set up FTP and see if that protocol transfers without issue to determine if it is limited to SMB.

     

    Ede.  I will try the diagnostic above.