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Holy
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August 12, 2014
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NO Web Browser Acces if FortiGuard Expires

  • August 12, 2014
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Hello, we have a Fortigate100D (NFR) for testing reasons in our Company Lab installed and our FortiGuard License has expired in August. I figured out, that now it is not possible to browse any website except of www.google.com with all kind of Browsers (Explorer,Opera,Mozilla,Chrome) if you have 1 or more UTM Features enabled in your Firewall Policy. So for example if i disable all the UTM Features on the Police Internal > Wan i can open any websites with my browser. But if i apply 1 or more UTM Features to that Policy (no mater what, IPS, AV , WEB Filter ans so on.) i cant do it anymore. Anyway i still can Ping those website sucsessfully ... i´ve tried it out from internal LAN and from SSL-VPN Tunnel. it´s the same. if split tunneling is disabled you cant open a webpage if any UTM is on. Is this a security Feature of Fortigate to block WEB Access if you License has expired or is it a bug? anyone has the same problem? thank you in advance.

    12 replies

    Warren_Olson_FTNT
    Staff
    Staff
    August 12, 2014
    Holy, Typically webfilter would not allow traffic through by default if the license had expired on it. If you can still ping through it indicates *all* traffic is not being affected, but possibly only http. If you haven' t done so already, try disabling just the webfilter service or at least change your profile to have the option " Allow Websites When a Rating Error Occurs" checked.
    Holy
    HolyAuthor
    New Member
    August 12, 2014
    Warren, firstly i was sure its because of WebFilter, but as i said. HTTP/HTTPS works only if i disable all UTM Features. And did not work if i enable only 1 or more UTM Features, no matter what AV, IPS ...
    Brady_R__Houser
    New Member
    August 12, 2014
    [image][/image] I' ve always set my AV filtering for " Allow Websites When a Rating Error Occurs" This should allow web filtering even if your license expires. Everything just gets passed.
    dasilva13
    New Member
    August 12, 2014
    You can do the allow websites when a rating occurs but just think of the negatives as well. If FortiGuard has an issue, your network is prone to more attacks. just saying
    Nihas
    New Member
    August 13, 2014
    If the UTM license has expired , you cannot use those features, it may work, but not properly. But you can use the firewall without the UTM.
    Istvan_Takacs_FTNT
    Staff
    Staff
    August 13, 2014
    Not sure why it is the surprise that you have blocked web sites when you are running on an unlicensed feature turned on. Especially if you have not enabled the fail open option. Even the product warns you when you try to enable it without Fortiguard license.
    ede_pfau
    SuperUser
    SuperUser
    August 13, 2014
    The thread starter does not discuss Web Filtering but any UTM feature ceasing to pass traffic through. If that' s how it is it would be new to FortiOS 5.2. I cannot remember this being documented. Or it could be a bug.
    Holy
    HolyAuthor
    New Member
    August 13, 2014
    Thank you so much ede_pfau :=) you get it right. I am not discussing the web Filter feature. i try to describe probably a bug or a strange behavior at least. we have the 5.0.7 installed and did not upgrade to 5.2 it is very anoying right now, because i want to do some testing and some practise for my FCNSA Exam and i cant test UTM Features because of this bug. I do understand that when a license expires you wont get the latest signatures and so on. But i thought you can use the Old ones for Testing. Nobody has the same problem?
    dasilva13
    New Member
    August 13, 2014
    For testing purposes I have an NFR version which I got much cheaper then normal. Also, it is sort of a, " you need fortiguard in order to use ANY of our definitions." Way for them to make more money.
    Holy
    HolyAuthor
    New Member
    August 13, 2014
    We have a NFR too. but as i said license has expired. so i think we must buy a new one then :)
    hfreel
    New Member
    April 22, 2015

    One thing to note about NFR - when you go to renew the License, you do not get NFR Pricing.

    emnoc
    New Member
    April 23, 2015

    I've personally never seen an out-of-date unit exhibit this ( stoppage ) execept for when the Webfilter is enabled,   BUT almost all other UTM features should allow the unit to operate to include IPS. Just don't expect any auto-update ( AS/AV/etc....)

     

    About NFR pricing, there's no SKU for any fortiguard  services from what I've recall, but you can check with your regional FTNT channel-partner manager for any special pricing but they might not be happy with that and the NFR process is really designed around a partner and demo/training.

     

     

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