New prices in Euroe ???

hello, yes, that' s true. I also heared about it. someone from fortinet visits my company and told me about the new pricing system. antivirus, IPS, URL-flitering must be licensed indepentently. as far as I know, also the pricing for the fortimanager will be changed... maybe someone from fortinet can say anything about it... regards

trust me, you don' t realy want to know about the new price system. you' ll get sick about it!!! increase of the price for the same services as with the " old" forticare is something between 200 - 400% (sometimes less...sometimes more) if fortinet stays whith this price policy we will stop working with this product asap. i' m very very angry and very very disappointed

No I dont think so. You see fortigate will have to deal with SonicWall, netask and so on. I dont think its good idea to increase prising. Fortigate owns it success to the fair and simple prising. Just wait... I think all will be the same.

Since Anti-Spam was pay to use, it wasn' t much of a surpise to find out that Anti-Virus and Intrusion Detection and now pay to use. Or I should really say pay to get " any" updates. What is next pay to get firmware updates, but of course why not ? Well they surley can do what they want, it' s a free market place, but I certainly did not expect a 100% increase in price to get AV & IPS that was included prior to June 1st. My yearly cost to subscribe is more than the cost of unit. Very bad PR move guys. I for one will be looking at other products such as from Sonic Wall. I am told they are not as expensive as Fortinet. It' s too bad because I' d like to stay loyal to this company but the ransom they are demanding to get definition updates is going to far. I can see charging the big boys who purchase the high end units, they obviously have an IT budget, but for small companys who just need a FGT-50 or 60, where there is no IT budget, this is just crazy. This appliance was sold to me as a cost savings and overhead reduction and I could see that BUT, for a small company with say 10 or 15 computers on a network and perhaps a mail server, it' s cheaper to use their existing Anti-Virus & AntiSpam tools.

Yes it is true (and sad) Prices change in Europe from July 1st. Units now will become alot more expensive (30% up) Support now is different. There are options for AV, IDP, AS, WEB and maintenece in different options.

Expect increases in the US as well. Just renewed contracts for our equipment last week. We will be evaluating alternatives this summer.

Well it' s plain and simpel: if you want to buy a unit with AV & IDP prices are up between 45% to almost 80% compared to old prices.[:' (] if you want to renew your maintenance (and want to stay using AV & IDP) prices are x2.5 the old prices where maintenance inlcuding AV&IDP was about 20% of the appliance price, now it is almost 60% outrageous & shortsighted? probably. I know it will stop a lot of our customers to renew their subscription and it will not make it any easier to sell to prospects (Fortinet still doesn' t have the general acceptance like e.g. Netscreen or Cisco ~ who btw have released a nice new system with the ASA5000 ~ at good prices :) So my question to Fortinet: why not ' give away' the appliances (let' s say a price decrease of at least 50% ~ now the prices of the appliance was also increased by 10%) and concentrate on selling the FortiGuard services at reasonable prices, and also MARKET IT THAT WAY! Low prices for the boxes would allow easy penetration within a new customer base. Upselling the services would be the real challenge (and far more easier than today with these new prices). My 2 cents. PS: the above is not applicable to the FG60 where there is actually a price decrease

The only part about Fortinet' s new price structure that I can agree with is in their breaking out NIDS/AV from their maintenance/support contract. I' ve had a couple of clients who have " shelved" their FortiGate for a year or more and then want to put it back in service. It' s not reasonable for them to get the benefits of a FULL contract starting from when they re-activate (lest some folks have no contract until their FortiGate barfs and then buy a contract) but at least they can put the unit back in service and get AV/NIDS protection as long as they pay for it. The other worrisome aspect of Fortinet " maximizing revenue" as their popularity grows is in the fact that historically each new release of the OS added more features. Now their new campaign is to offer new services such as FortiGuard, FortiLog and FortiManager at a premium cost and then start " dumbing down" the OS so that the features that did at least rudimentary logging (or whatever) no longer work. With every version of the OS I worry about what is going to break -OR- what feature is going to disappear... because they always do. Always. I agree with most of the posters... it' s time to start shopping.